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the planet surfing masters almost surely

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have a plan this clearly maybe something

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there beyond the realm of man panic to

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parity just did every sample just you

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I'm fine the more you think you know the

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less you really do that's true dr. Zaius

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where would we be without because we

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know that

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don't know what

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without me

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the highest

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all right higher side chatters while we

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always try to keep a close eye on

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pockets of unchecked power it seems that

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over the years the nefarious elite have

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realized that they can come out from

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behind the curtain relishing the

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protection spell that is limited

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liability and coast on the ignorance and

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apathy of the masses as long as they

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offer up a catchy jingle and the fake

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smile of an underpaid PR shill meanwhile

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their true weapons of mass destruction

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Merc Monsanto Dow Chemical Pfizer Nestle

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Exxon Mobil coca-cola and a nearly

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endless list of corrupt corporations

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ruthlessly consumed market share as we

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the people and the planet itself suffer

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in their wake but lucky for us today's

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guest Richard Belzer is not fooled and

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along with his writing partner David

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Wain has just released a powerful book

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exposing the inner workings and dirty

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deeds of these very companies entitled

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corporate conspiracies how Wall Street

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took over Washington Richard has had a

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long career as a well-known stand-up

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comedian and actor as well best known

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for his role as John munch on the TV

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shows homicide life on the street and

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Law & Order Special Victims Unit but

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he's also one of the few celebrities out

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there willing to use their popularity to

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draw attention to the things they don't

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want you to know and has authored or

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co-authored several previous

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conspiratorial books including UFOs JFK

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and Elvis conspiracies you don't have to

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be crazy to believe hit list and

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in-depth investigation into the

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mysterious depths of witnesses of the

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JFK assassination and someone is hiding

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something what happened to Malaysia

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Airlines flight 370

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finally a guest you can actually say not

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only is he a conspiracy enthusiast but

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he plays one on TV and I'm pleased to

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have him here the bells himself Richard

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my man welcome to the higher side um

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thrilled to be here thank you yeah man

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it is a real treat thanks for being here

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I know you've had a long career working

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with some of the Great's and I really

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enjoyed this book too it's awesome that

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while you could just coast on that sweet

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sweet Network money you still write

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about these subjects quite often and you

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don't need to get into these thorny

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subjects and sketchy conspiracy podcasts

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like mine so I find it all that more

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respectable that you do maybe start us

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off there talk to us about

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that decision why do you find yourself

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compelled to draw attention to these

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things when you really don't have to

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yeah well I've always been thrown out of

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every school I ever went to and you know

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for uncontrollable widths and I always

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questioned the authority as a little kid

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I would listen to the what the adults

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were saying and kind of at the risk of

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being a modest I was very curious and

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very smart and adults would say things

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in front of me that they wouldn't say in

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front of another child hmm it was

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interesting at any rate I've always been

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you know I was a newspaper reporter for

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a while in fact I wasn't an actor and a

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comedian I would be a journalist so you

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know this is not far from my you know

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interest the question Authority and the

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fact that I'm a celebrity now is really

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I you know I'm in France not kind of

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like I don't work that much and I could

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just be back here with my five dogs I'm

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a beautiful wife but now I have the

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leisure of studying and interviewing and

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really going into depth and so I feel

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compelled to write this stuff you know

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as a because of the journalistic part of

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me in my blood and the capitalized on my

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celebrity and not sit back and you know

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although I could very easily and I do

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your turn well cheers to that I mean

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it's a beautiful thing I'm curious do

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you ever find people dismissing your

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serious book work because you are an

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actor and you know you're not supposed

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to know anything about anything really

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yeah somebody the other night I was

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being interviewed a caller saying you

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know you actors you don't have time to

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really study the issues and I said lady

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you don't know me I've in my trailer

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five six hours a day reading on the

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phone on the internet you know so to

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summarily dismiss a celebrity because

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they're compassionate you know look what

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celebrities have done in terms of the

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civil rights moving in the you know

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healthcare movements and education the

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arts thank God

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that

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artists are compelled to be citizens you

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know your occupation doesn't exclude you

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from being a participant in our

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democracy yes agreed I think it was John

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Malkovich had a great line I act for

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free they pay me to wait around all day

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because you do so much waiting but

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everybody has to have a job so to think

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that like you can't have a job and also

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research conspiracies is pretty crazy so

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this book about corporate conspiracies

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of course it is dedicated to Robin

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Williams who you also wrote about in it

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right but some people might be surprised

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to hear that you considered his death a

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murder as another victim of corporate

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greed can you elaborate on that for us

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well we did a lot of research on

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pharmaceuticals Facebook and we included

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very detailed charts showing what

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prescription drugs can do now Robin

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apparently was given for different

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powerful prescriptions in his final

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months Merck topping Remeron Sara Coyle

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Mara packs cinnamon I mean the so-called

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side effects of these drugs include

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strong suicidal ideation thoughts of

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self-harm depression psychotic like

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behavior and unusually strong unhealthy

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urges now one thing is you know Robin

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was clean and sober at the time of his

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death but the news reports that no drugs

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are found in his body were misleading

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psychiatric drugs were found in his body

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in our opinion and the opinion of many

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many others that was the real cause of

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his death what drove him to it and he

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won't hear about this on the news but

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big pharma is mainstream media's biggest

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advertising customer right and put that

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together with 23,000 suicides are

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attributed to psychiatric drugs every

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year in America hmm and so you know

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they're advertising the [\h__\h] out of this

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stuff and you know they're not really

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following up too much on the

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ramifications of it because tremendous

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amount of money that's involved right

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the prescription drug problem is

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seriously out of control these Big

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offer them big commissions for writing

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prescriptions they don't really know a

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lot about and then we're also one of the

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where you can advertise these drugs to

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the people directly on TV so they hit us

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on both sides we go in asking for this

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stuff and doctors are set up to supply

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it it is a pretty messed up system yeah

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and one of the tragedies of the system

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is that we don't want to humanize these

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drugs for people that really need them

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do you know what I mean and I think

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that's right lost in the conversation I

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mean I personally and I know a lot of

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people you know that after surgery or

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cancer or whatever some of these drugs

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are are prescribed for a reason

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it's the abuse of them that you know

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should be curtailed and I think there is

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a correlation between who is governing

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the country what is at the head of the

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country what does it move the country

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and the amount of drug use

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and spousal abuse and domestic violence

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and I did say that barometer has gone up

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the last few months

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hmm do you know what I'm saying like you

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know I'm getting us absolutely the

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president even if they are just a puppet

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they at least set a tone for the country

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and their personality plays into the way

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people act exactly you know when John

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Kennedy was president but he wanted to

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be in govern you know what I mean yeah

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you know then along comes somebody like

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Nixon and Johnson and Nixon and

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disillusioned

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everybody again but no you're right it's

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we're given choices between two people

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you know quote-unquote choices between

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people who on these issues that are in

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your book that we really care about

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there's very little wiggle room they

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seem to be pretty aligned on most of

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those things you know that is true and

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you know in Europe and France for

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instance you know eight ten twelve

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people run not just to write and then

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they you know have primaries and they

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eliminate and people may vote to

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somebody extreme as a protest vote but

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when it comes to the main vote they vote

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more mainstream so I think it's

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healthier it's a sickness to have just

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you know two parties the remic rats you

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know the deep publicans or whatever you

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want to call them right they all are all

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owned to a degree but I think it's a

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matter of degree that's true yeah well

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said and so expect to get back to the

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big pharma thing and Robin Williams

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situation you also write about Rob

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Schneider and that he was pretty vocal

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about this prescription drug problem and

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Robin Williams death and he got a pretty

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serious PR pummeling for it didn't he

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you have to be careful because you know

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some people again because it's a

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celebrity speaking out but it's

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interesting why people would react that

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way for someone who was you know

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devastated by his friend's death and has

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an opinion mm-hmm right as you put it in

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the book the media helped do a lot of

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damage control around Robin's death and

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we see Good Morning America defending

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these pharmaceutical companies and

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blasting Rob Schneider which airs on ABC

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which is owned by Disney which is one of

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the largest recipients of Big Pharma's

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money so it gets to be pretty clear when

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you put it in those terms yeah and you

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know when you

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once that is sometimes you see McDonnell

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Douglas advertising on there but who's

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that for are you and I going to buy a

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jet plane ah it's like they're just

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showing us who owns who owns the news

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absolutely and Rob Schneider as well as

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Jenny McCarthy have both been pretty

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vocal on the vaccine issue too and if

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these drugs have a laundry list of side

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effects and dangers why wouldn't we

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think vaccines made by the same

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companies you know why would we think

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that somehow they're completely perfect

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and immune to these same issues but you

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know what our comedians and Playboy

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Bunnies know about anything right yeah

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well you know Robin F Kennedy jr. wrote

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an entire book on the subject and as you

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know he's not a bunny and you know he's

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concluded as many others have that it's

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because of the dangerous preservatives

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that the big drug companies put in the

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vaccines to maximize their profit by

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increasing vaccines shelf life just like

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with all these drug issues big pharma

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uses its medium machine its financial

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clout and the influence of advise in

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Washington to keep the system from

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changing and I keep maximizing profit

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because they clearly care more about

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money than they care about people to

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what clean you know mm-hmm and the

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vaccine issue really worries me because

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if you read between the lines and dig

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into the suppressed data on them the

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case gets pretty clear but people just

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aren't open to it meanwhile how many

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people calling the anti-vaccine owed and

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delusional actually know what the [\h__\h]

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the marisol even is yeah that's a good

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point you know people have a mindset and

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it's cognitive dissidence to tell them

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is that something they may have trusted

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for years is untrustworthy it's very

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hard to break through that you think the

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reason would win out but there's a big

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emotional investment in a lot of these

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things and you know it's not just

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presenting people with the facts

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apparently it's very distressing because

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of an emotional home it is that we also

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have a bit of a trend a big farm making

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up new terms for diseases and conditions

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some would say a DD is an example of

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that but it is a fairly common practice

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right I mean make a problem and then

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sell the solution well

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because of social media

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I think everyone now is diagnosing

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themselves and looking things up and

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really confusing not only themselves but

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also I think the ethical challenge of

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the medical community when somebody

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comes to them and says you know I saw

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this drug can I get it and it's a whole

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other issue in the old days when you

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went to the doctor and you trusted the

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doctor and pay five dollars a visit and

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I'm aging myself you know it was it's a

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different time now you don't know what

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the doctor unless you know the doctor

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well you don't know what he's selling

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and what he's prescribing that is you

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know actually necessary we're just

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vaguely in the ballpark of what you

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might need right and people get this

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false sense of security that well these

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aren't really drugs because they're

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regulated and you know they're produced

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legally and they're far safer than these

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completely unregulated and dirty street

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drugs that are out there but that's

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really not the case no it's not and you

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know people will convince themselves or

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delude themselves however we want to say

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to justify what they're doing but at the

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same time we turn around and condemn

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others for doing the same thing mm-hmm

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and so if we're talking about health

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issues from corporate products we've got

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to give Monsanto and Dow Chemical some

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mentions here too don't we well you know

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the biggest

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most depressing thing is the enormity of

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these corporations in the world

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worldwide reach Monsanto has the

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reputation now of being the world's most

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evil corporation and I can tell you

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that's a reputation well well-earned

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they're responsible for everything from

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say the DDT Agent Orange hormones

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saccharine GM foods roundup which is the

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world's best-selling and extremely toxic

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planet polluting pesticide GMO farming

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is linked to the dwindling bee

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population the duelling monarch

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butterfly population annual soil

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toxicity water toxicity toxins in the

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food we is rates we have now in the

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early honks of diabetes and childhood

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obesity so like I said their reputation

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for evil is well deserved that's month

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one one company yeah it's so sad I mean

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what are really the solutions for

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something like that how do we keep a

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company from getting that big should we

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get rid of the corporate structure

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entirely and make each company have a

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accountable owner that has to be

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responsible for what their company does

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which would kind of keep their greed in

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check by making sure that they can at

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least keep a handle on everything their

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company's doing I mean I really don't

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know how to handle this stuff when they

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have this limited liability clause well

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I think one thing that we can do is

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reduce the amount of money these

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corporations can give to politicians

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that's a start

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yeah and also boycotting products

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actually works and I think people are

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more and more aware of that I mean it's

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a it's like you know these companies are

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like countries we're not fighting the

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corner grocery store these are gigantic

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corporations with lawyers and political

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connections but you know the day after

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the inauguration there is millions of

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people in the street

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so there's I'm not disheartened by

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American people waking up because of

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this last election and taking on some of

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these issues that they never did before

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because they realized that our current

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government is totally a corp autocracy

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amen and I've talked to many guests

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before about the EPA and the FDA and how

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they do provide a false sense of

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security because a lot of them are paid

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off and they're not really doing their

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job but you note that in a 2010

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California State Senate review it

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actually revealed that of the 83,000

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chemicals used in consumer products only

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a fraction of them have actually been

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tested by the EPA even if they were

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doing their job with full integrity and

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I mean what the hell that's pretty

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shocking man yeah they keep defunding

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the EPA now well here's the thing that

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people have to pay attention to any

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wheel

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is you know we talked about the

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revolving door between banks and

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Washington it's because there's an

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obvious conflict of interest when a

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company like Monsanto the head of

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Monsanto becomes the Secretary of

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Agriculture that's a conflict of

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interest when somebody from golden Sachs

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or citigroup becomes a secretary of the

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Treasury you know it's like it's so

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obvious it's like that's Turing you

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right in our faces

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I make no mistake that loser the

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American people and the winner is Wall

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Street in the 1% or in some cases less

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than 1% and you know Elizabeth Warren

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and Senator Warren noted that three of

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the last four Treasury secretaries under

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Democratic presidents starting with

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Robert Rubin have been affiliated with

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Citigroup either before or after their

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service and that's got to stop and this

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whole thing about too big to fail that's

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got to start amen

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and you mentioned a revolving door and

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Monsanto and that is such a great

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clear-cut example I had it written down

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here from your book this guy's name is

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Michael Taylor he was an attorney for

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Monsanto

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then joined the FDA as Deputy

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Commissioner of food then went back to

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Monsanto as VP of public policy then

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went back to the FDA as Deputy

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Commissioner for policy rigging the game

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for Monsanto all along the way and

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that's pretty insane I mean shouldn't

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the FDA Commissioner of foods be like a

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leading nutritionist or something not

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just a freakin lawyer yeah I think

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wasn't the guy the last head of the FDA

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was a you know as a physicist or

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something you know I mean they're like

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there's a guy with some brains no you

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it's just disgusting lean obviously

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everything's a political appointee that

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to meet the needs of the corporations

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this all started with Reagan when he

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would appoint the heads of different

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departments to disassemble those

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departments like education and

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agriculture and and so this has been

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going on for a long time and Bush was

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you know a dream to corporations

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imagine how much they love Trump he's

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just like this you know twelve year old

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albino gorilla bouncing on trees and

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eating whatever he can grab yeah man and

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there also is a real parallel between

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say the disinfo we experienced around

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cigarettes a few decades ago and what

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we're dealing with now when it comes to

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something like sugar and soda isn't that

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yeah

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good comparison I mean the tobacco

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industry spent millions and millions of

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dollars of these fake studies over years

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and years I remember when I was a kid

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you know my doctor recommends Camel

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dependent and it will be pictures of

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doctors smoking so yeah that's a good

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model for these other industries and I

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think you know that would lend itself to

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big oil to to convince them to at least

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start to switch over to green because

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they can make just as much money with

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solar panels and thermal energy from the

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earth and wind farms and lose all cotton

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you know better batteries and it's

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ridiculous that they're so drunk on oil

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and it's such a everywhere there's oil

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there's human suffering I think this

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next generation coming up you know I was

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kind of losing all hope for a while

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there but it looks like a lot of people

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are energized it never wears been before

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this alleged mmhmm yeah there's a little

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bit of Hope in there and the oil

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companies that a lot of the modern

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pharmaceutical chemicals are derived

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from the products of these oil companies

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to Rockefeller medicine and so you you

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know you look at these particular early

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industrialists and they are responsible

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for a hell of a lot especially you have

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some documentary as you mentioned in the

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book that I have seen and interviewed

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people from before that go over the

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history of transportation and energy and

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the manipulation and the suppression of

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alternatives that have been there for a

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long time that people don't even realize

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they think that we're just now on the

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cutting edge of coming up with some of

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these electric vehicles and other

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technologies but that's

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not the case I mean the history shows

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that they have been there and they have

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been quarantined away from the public

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knowledge yeah you know the documentary

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who killed the electric car yeah now

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there have been electric cars for a long

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time that you know work fine but then GM

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or Ford will buy the patent and bury it

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yep

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rather than be you know cutting-edge and

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that's a Vista Faiz me they could make

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just as much money by adapting to not

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choking the planet to do right it is

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such a shame that just these handful of

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people maybe a hundred two hundred

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people have taken us down a course of

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serious destruction and set us back

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centuries and you know so many people

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are just oblivious they don't understand

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that yeah we really do have a pyramid

551
00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:26,120
hierarchy and there are a couple of

552
00:23:29,710 --> 00:23:27,620
people at the top that have influenced

553
00:23:33,490 --> 00:23:29,720
your life too incredibly detailed

554
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:33,500
degrees and nothing gets done well

555
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,120
people don't want to hear that they

556
00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:38,000
don't want to believe that I have I'm

557
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:40,280
sure you have too you're spoken to

558
00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:43,010
highly intelligent people and you tell

559
00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:44,500
them something that's factually true

560
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:48,440
Leon no that's not true yep and you go

561
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:50,810
yeah it's true and it's like it's part

562
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:53,210
of the reason I write books is I'm tired

563
00:23:57,910 --> 00:23:54,590
of people rolling your eyes with me at

564
00:24:00,220 --> 00:23:57,920
dinner parties I'm kidding but you know

565
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,230
it's like there are so many things that

566
00:24:05,530 --> 00:24:03,520
are truly we don't generally know and

567
00:24:08,020 --> 00:24:05,540
that's what you know that's what I'm

568
00:24:11,170 --> 00:24:08,030
into is finding those things off and

569
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:11,180
just revealing them I'm not you know you

570
00:24:18,510 --> 00:24:14,690
could your own conclusions but facts are

571
00:24:21,550 --> 00:24:18,520
facts and this history of the

572
00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:21,560
corporatization of America is spelled

573
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:25,040
out for us all to see them very easy you

574
00:24:28,930 --> 00:24:27,770
know ya couldn't agree more and you

575
00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:28,940
mentioned that you split your time

576
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:31,280
between the United States and France and

577
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:33,190
these companies we're talking about are

578
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:35,510
international and scope but do you see

579
00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:37,370
these corporations in the food and

580
00:24:42,550 --> 00:24:39,980
medical areas having as big a field day

581
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:42,560
and Europe as they do in America well

582
00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:44,910
some countries are much more

583
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,540
careful and restrictive for instance in

584
00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:50,960
the area I live in a farming area a

585
00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:53,580
small village in the southwest of France

586
00:25:02,690 --> 00:24:59,460
and no GMO here all organic farmers no

587
00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:02,700
pesticides there are pesticides but

588
00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:06,360
there they're natural and there's no

589
00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:09,240
hormones I mean so I'm very spoiled here

590
00:25:14,150 --> 00:25:10,920
and there's no reason why I can't be

591
00:25:16,910 --> 00:25:14,160
that way everywhere you know the people

592
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:16,920
in America don't realize how much

593
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:20,130
garbage they eat every day literally and

594
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:24,510
then this one again this trend of by

595
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:27,270
local is you know catching on in a lot

596
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:29,730
of places and people are slowly coming

597
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:32,490
around yeah I mean there is a little

598
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,710
hope and that especially Here I am in

599
00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:36,480
Southern California and I experienced a

600
00:25:41,150 --> 00:25:38,430
lot but I grew up in Missouri where it

601
00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:41,160
isn't quite as prevalent and the idea of

602
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:44,430
food deserts I mean those are quite real

603
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:46,620
and that a lot of people in their

604
00:25:51,290 --> 00:25:49,050
smaller towns in the Midwest their only

605
00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:51,300
choices are the five fast-food

606
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:53,340
restaurants in town the Pizza Hut or

607
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:56,010
going to Walmart for their processed

608
00:26:00,740 --> 00:25:58,650
foods which a lot of times our [\h__\h]

609
00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:00,750
quality too so a lot of times people are

610
00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:03,500
kind of up the creek without a paddle

611
00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:08,220
mm-hmm and that's something that people

612
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:11,940
do not want to hear because they feel

613
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:16,050
it's too much but as they put it you

614
00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:18,450
know a really good like they're doing

615
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:20,670
this like holes which is somebody's

616
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:22,050
purposely going into these neighborhoods

617
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:24,210
where they just have the corner shitty

618
00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:26,610
little grocery store and so you know

619
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:28,950
there's some corporate responsibility in

620
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:31,290
this also there's no reason why these

621
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:35,130
more healthful outlets can't spread out

622
00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:38,580
more and it's good PR also right

623
00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:41,100
speaking of PR we mentioned the media's

624
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:43,950
work in doing PR for Big Pharma and you

625
00:26:48,770 --> 00:26:46,830
also talked about movies like American

626
00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:48,780
sniper and zero dark thirty in the book

627
00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:51,000
is pretty transparent examples of

628
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:53,160
propaganda designed to glorify the

629
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:55,110
military-industrial complex in the war

630
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:57,960
machine but how deep does this Hollywood

631
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:58,710
arm

632
00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:00,659
of manipulation go are there less

633
00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:02,190
obvious examples that you might have

634
00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:06,419
picked up on in your career I'm going to

635
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:07,860
get too many people in trouble but it's

636
00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:12,240
true that there are people and high

637
00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:14,070
levels of our government I'm not making

638
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:17,140
this up this is in the public domain

639
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:20,530
from the CIA and the government from the

640
00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:24,610
Pentagon whose certain filmmakers will

641
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:27,860
get if they want an aircraft carrier

642
00:27:33,850 --> 00:27:30,110
or jet planes or you know they're doing

643
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:33,860
a war movie or sci-fi movie or any kind

644
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:35,750
of movie that you know has those

645
00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:38,990
elements in it then they have script

646
00:27:44,050 --> 00:27:40,550
approval you know if I'm going to give

647
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:44,060
you a battle fleet and you know 20 jets

648
00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:46,670
what are you writing about so keep that

649
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:47,390
in mind

650
00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:49,490
you know listeners when you go see one

651
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:51,590
of these movies and there's all this

652
00:27:58,420 --> 00:27:54,410
hardware there a lot of that is not CGI

653
00:28:03,940 --> 00:27:58,430
a lot of that is real and so that means

654
00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:03,950
it's just approval my dogs are drawn

655
00:28:13,330 --> 00:28:10,760
with yeah I mean I'm right there with

656
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:13,340
you to these movies the military is

657
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:15,950
always going to be painted in a positive

658
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:17,690
light because you're just not going to

659
00:28:22,330 --> 00:28:19,310
be able to use their equipment without

660
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:22,340
it and we also know the CIA has placed

661
00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:24,890
or at least trained certain people that

662
00:28:29,410 --> 00:28:27,260
they put in these positions and news

663
00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:29,420
media they push a narrative that's

664
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:32,360
cooked up in the deep state and that's

665
00:28:38,290 --> 00:28:35,630
another area where I just wonder how far

666
00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:38,300
that influence spreads over other areas

667
00:28:42,490 --> 00:28:40,160
of Hollywood and other aspects of

668
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:42,500
broadcasting besides just these major

669
00:28:47,050 --> 00:28:44,750
news networks that everybody seems to be

670
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:47,060
waking up to at least

671
00:28:54,910 --> 00:28:51,520
well in 1970 I think was 74

672
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:54,920
roughly Carl Bernstein wrote a piece for

673
00:29:00,270 --> 00:28:57,110
ruin Stone magazine

674
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:00,280
in which he said there is I think he

675
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:05,690
listed a number like 320 publications

676
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:09,950
that were getting information from the

677
00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:14,240
CIA directly and when that came out

678
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:17,240
shortly thereafter there was an outraged

679
00:29:23,770 --> 00:29:21,170
piece in The New York Times admitting

680
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:23,780
that they did it and saying they all

681
00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:26,510
know the numbers much higher so you know

682
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:29,020
in their own defense ain't advertently

683
00:29:35,470 --> 00:29:32,480
admitted that you know everybody CBS

684
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:35,480
News beginning to see ABC all these

685
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:38,860
companies were getting information

686
00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:41,840
directly from the CIA talking points

687
00:29:47,289 --> 00:29:45,020
cetera et cetera and you know the CIA's

688
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:47,299
nickname is the company because it

689
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:49,010
protects the corporate interests of the

690
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:51,410
United States so the CIA is giving

691
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:54,169
talking points to Network News those

692
00:30:01,120 --> 00:29:56,570
talking points figure i won't come from

693
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:01,130
a major corporation right man and you

694
00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:02,090
know that article you mentioned is

695
00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:04,520
written in 74 do you think we ever have

696
00:30:09,010 --> 00:30:06,230
had a free press or has it's been a

697
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:09,020
propaganda machine from the beginning no

698
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:11,470
I it's you know there are still people

699
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:15,049
that are you know writing the truth as

700
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:16,790
they find it but they're not in you know

701
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,890
they're not you don't see blaring

702
00:30:24,010 --> 00:30:21,440
headlines leading off the news every

703
00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:24,020
night but you know there are really good

704
00:30:29,470 --> 00:30:26,630
reporters out there who don't have

705
00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:29,480
millions and millions of viewers but

706
00:30:34,210 --> 00:30:32,120
there are people doing the work and even

707
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:34,220
though that like if somebody works for a

708
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:37,280
network for some reason certain people

709
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,710
even though that network is beholden to

710
00:30:44,770 --> 00:30:42,080
some dark forces they allow certain

711
00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:44,780
people to say whatever they want because

712
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:48,100
they're not afraid of the repercussions

713
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:50,330
you know what I mean it's like right

714
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,330
like lawrence O'Donnell is great it's a

715
00:30:59,289 --> 00:30:56,240
great reporter every night you know he

716
00:31:01,780 --> 00:30:59,299
tells the truth as he sees it and I like

717
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:01,790
Rachel Maddow 80 80 90 percent of the

718
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:03,350
time she's fantastic

719
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:06,350
and the Nation magazine is pretty

720
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,200
reliable and Vox and

721
00:31:15,850 --> 00:31:12,320
you know they if you fish around you can

722
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,860
find things in the public domain you

723
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:17,840
know before the internet I used to read

724
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:20,540
like 10 newspapers a day and now

725
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:23,090
fortunately I can read you know or loose

726
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:26,570
reference a hundred newspapers right and

727
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:28,850
there are definitely good people in

728
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:31,190
journalism as long as they don't go too

729
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:32,930
far down the rabbit hole but you don't

730
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:34,910
really need to control every individual

731
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:37,070
person if you have an editor at each

732
00:31:43,870 --> 00:31:41,600
paper or producer at each network and

733
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:43,880
you just have a list of well we don't

734
00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:45,950
talk about these 10 things and other

735
00:31:51,930 --> 00:31:48,950
than that go at it you know I think

736
00:31:55,690 --> 00:31:51,940
that's pretty pretty close to reality

737
00:31:57,580 --> 00:31:55,700
there are certain things that they could

738
00:32:01,450 --> 00:31:57,590
talk about them going to be discouraged

739
00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:01,460
from talking about and there are certain

740
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:04,760
things that just not not to address

741
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:07,310
things that I worry about especially

742
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:10,310
with this president is self-censorship

743
00:32:15,010 --> 00:32:12,830
in other words thinking in your mind

744
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:15,020
that you shouldn't say something that's

745
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:19,370
almost as bad as state censorship you

746
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:21,170
know what I mean it's like and I think

747
00:32:27,910 --> 00:32:25,120
Trump is trying to instill this kind of

748
00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:27,920
dictator bully mentality over everybody

749
00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:30,830
that works for him you know like you

750
00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:33,380
could be fired in a second right

751
00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:35,240
call me knows that I'll do well at this

752
00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:37,070
point well yeah I mean you know the

753
00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:38,390
United States another [\h__\h] reality

754
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:43,540
show this is serious [\h__\h] and and

755
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:46,880
everyday I can't no one can remember

756
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:49,490
getting up every single day and going

757
00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:52,370
wait a minute she's the president what's

758
00:32:57,580 --> 00:32:54,980
he gonna do today it's every day he's

759
00:33:00,430 --> 00:32:57,590
changing or every hour I don't think

760
00:33:01,930 --> 00:33:00,440
people were nervous systems are mint I

761
00:33:05,290 --> 00:33:01,940
don't know how long it's gonna last

762
00:33:06,490 --> 00:33:05,300
just section these guys given the world

763
00:33:09,730 --> 00:33:06,500
a nervous breakdown

764
00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:09,740
alright and I was definitely shocked

765
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:12,590
even though so much shocking things have

766
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:14,270
happened I was really surprised to see

767
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:17,150
Comey actually get fired it seems like

768
00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:18,890
pretty transparent what was going on

769
00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:20,660
there but then you know you go to the

770
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:22,670
other side and Bill Clinton he fired the

771
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:23,090
F

772
00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:25,490
by director just before they found Vince

773
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:28,420
Foster's body which is a big conspiracy

774
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:33,890
yeah that's yeah but I don't think

775
00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:35,930
they're comfortable I think there's

776
00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:38,360
certainly - Vince Foster of death

777
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:40,400
I mean I've written about it so is

778
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:45,500
incredibly suspicious but I can't

779
00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:47,630
Clinton's fingerprints on it although I

780
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:50,030
wouldn't be shocked

781
00:33:58,029 --> 00:33:53,990
I have no wares in this situation he's

782
00:34:00,250 --> 00:33:58,039
admitting that stuff to Lester Holt so

783
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:00,260
it's a different you know what I mean he

784
00:34:06,750 --> 00:34:03,289
he had his whole administration gone why

785
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:06,760
and then he goes on the next day and

786
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:08,810
refutes everything was saying that's

787
00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:11,510
like no one's ever seen anything like

788
00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:14,300
this right I mean it is definitely more

789
00:34:18,430 --> 00:34:17,000
obvious and in-your-face but as you know

790
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:18,440
with a lot of these conspiracies

791
00:34:22,419 --> 00:34:20,330
sometimes we don't get that smoking gun

792
00:34:24,490 --> 00:34:22,429
and we have to do a little speculation I

793
00:34:26,619 --> 00:34:24,500
don't think it's you know too far to say

794
00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:26,629
that Vince Foster situation was quite

795
00:34:32,349 --> 00:34:29,240
sketchy as well oh yeah very suspicious

796
00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:32,359
incredibly suspicious so you know I

797
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:34,550
mentioned American sniper and zero dark

798
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,649
thirty some movies that are made as

799
00:34:42,129 --> 00:34:38,480
examples of propaganda that you talk

800
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:42,139
about in the book Top Gun oh of course

801
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:45,290
and as an actor yourself I'm curious do

802
00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:47,510
you think that actors have any

803
00:34:52,990 --> 00:34:50,030
responsibility for this and the parts

804
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:53,000
that they take and play oh I think

805
00:34:58,300 --> 00:34:54,770
actors some still they have a

806
00:35:01,000 --> 00:34:58,310
responsibility to themselves as artists

807
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:01,010
and to their fans and you know we'll

808
00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:02,930
turn stuff down I mean I know that for a

809
00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:06,230
fact so if you see somebody an actor in

810
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:08,180
a jingoistic movie that's really

811
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:10,940
repellant nobody put a gun to their head

812
00:35:18,609 --> 00:35:14,930
to do it and he did it period right so

813
00:35:21,130 --> 00:35:18,619
some movies have an agenda and some are

814
00:35:24,070 --> 00:35:21,140
just you know garbage sometimes

815
00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:24,080
distraction is all that you need yeah

816
00:35:28,359 --> 00:35:25,670
and I'm all for that if it's

817
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:28,369
entertaining and not malevolent at this

818
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,730
core mm-hmm I mean it is kind of a

819
00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:34,160
slippery slope to say they should take

820
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:35,480
too much responsibility because you can

821
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:37,130
always just find somebody else I mean I

822
00:35:40,570 --> 00:35:38,570
mentioned I'm from Missouri and I have

823
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:40,580
three friends who work at Monsanto and

824
00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:42,410
we just don't talk about it but I mean

825
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:44,900
really where else is a biochemistry

826
00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:46,910
major in Missouri going to work you know

827
00:35:51,970 --> 00:35:48,920
people have to pay the rent but it does

828
00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:51,980
kind of bum me out yeah I know exactly

829
00:36:00,920 --> 00:35:55,180
what you're saying I have a plan to

830
00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:00,930
was approached when he was in college by

831
00:36:08,819 --> 00:36:07,000
Ken Agha CIA Oh an eye on this Office of

832
00:36:12,809 --> 00:36:08,829
Naval Intelligence because he was so

833
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:12,819
smart and he you know he had kind of

834
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:16,089
modified Holograms in buzina was into

835
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:18,670
this really brilliant stuff and they

836
00:36:23,069 --> 00:36:21,250
just wanted to appropriate um for

837
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:23,079
military purposes Wow

838
00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:24,550
and he turned them all down and they

839
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:27,550
offered him like you know his own lab

840
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:31,210
and tons of money and scholarships for

841
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:34,030
his kids you know all this stuff and he

842
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:34,960
didn't do it

843
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:37,540
so and you know he never had it there

844
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:40,150
were no like he wasn't didn't get cancer

845
00:36:46,650 --> 00:36:42,490
after that run over like cars so that's

846
00:36:47,579 --> 00:36:46,660
that's a plus right one of the lucky one

847
00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:47,589
yeah right

848
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:50,020
it is rare to have someone with such a

849
00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:52,420
successful acting career here have you

850
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:54,520
ever faced situations where in your

851
00:36:59,220 --> 00:36:56,770
career as an actor that's conflicted

852
00:37:00,569 --> 00:36:59,230
with your conspiratorial opinions or

853
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:00,579
your the books that you're writing are

854
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:02,049
the personal beliefs you have in these

855
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:04,930
areas has I ever faced a situation that

856
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:07,150
was against my principles as I what

857
00:37:11,010 --> 00:37:09,460
you're saying tastin yeah where your

858
00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:11,020
acting career and your conspiracy

859
00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:14,220
interests were kind of conflicted yeah

860
00:37:21,299 --> 00:37:18,040
fortunately on homicide in law and order

861
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:21,309
and this happened very rarely if there

862
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:22,630
was something in the script that I

863
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:24,250
didn't agree with her that I knew not to

864
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:27,910
be true you know we would change it or

865
00:37:34,349 --> 00:37:31,540
at least you know meet me halfway so now

866
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:34,359
I'm fortunate I was really never in that

867
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:36,970
position I've been censored I was

868
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:39,190
supposed to do this big this is years

869
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:43,089
ago up here at some symposium for this

870
00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:45,640
radio station it turned out the owner

871
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:49,180
the radio station was shall I say was

872
00:37:54,450 --> 00:37:52,210
delicately an anti-semite and so now we

873
00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:54,460
don't want that New York comedian to do

874
00:38:00,799 --> 00:37:56,920
this New York comedian is euphemism for

875
00:38:04,539 --> 00:38:00,809
Jew Jew comedian Jewish community and

876
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:04,549
there is a couple other times where I

877
00:38:10,229 --> 00:38:07,670
was censored but never never nothing

878
00:38:13,479 --> 00:38:10,239
egregious just mm-hmm

879
00:38:16,109 --> 00:38:13,489
kind of embarrassed people who didn't

880
00:38:18,999 --> 00:38:16,119
want to hear what I was wanted to say

881
00:38:19,769 --> 00:38:19,009
you know what invited me to certain

882
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:19,779
things

883
00:38:28,419 --> 00:38:23,569
nothing really I want to ask that I know

884
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:28,429
a few people in the CIA and in Secret

885
00:38:36,339 --> 00:38:33,650
Service and I asked this X Secret

886
00:38:40,089 --> 00:38:36,349
Service gun because I was writing a book

887
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:40,099
at the time about JFK and but UFOs and I

888
00:38:44,319 --> 00:38:42,170
said there anything I should worry about

889
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:44,329
he said no no you you're a comedian

890
00:38:50,049 --> 00:38:47,839
oldest they won't kill you and what

891
00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:50,059
struck me was they do kill people but

892
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:51,319
they won't kill you is what he was

893
00:38:57,339 --> 00:38:55,640
saying like they won't kill you yeah man

894
00:38:58,959 --> 00:38:57,349
that is something I've been worried

895
00:39:01,329 --> 00:38:58,969
about more and more as the show grows

896
00:39:02,829 --> 00:39:01,339
but I always say that I'm probably safe

897
00:39:04,179 --> 00:39:02,839
because it's the guests who are doing

898
00:39:06,789 --> 00:39:04,189
the research and as long as they're

899
00:39:10,569 --> 00:39:06,799
still around I guess I should be fine no

900
00:39:13,569 --> 00:39:10,579
they don't you know Pete we are we can

901
00:39:17,049 --> 00:39:13,579
be easily marginal hold on you know I've

902
00:39:19,959 --> 00:39:17,059
gotten in trouble actually I got no I

903
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:19,969
forgot to tell you one story you may

904
00:39:27,429 --> 00:39:23,569
have known this I was on Fox News in the

905
00:39:30,099 --> 00:39:27,439
morning they're not Fox News um anyway

906
00:39:33,309 --> 00:39:30,109
was a talk show not to the one that's on

907
00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:33,319
now but another one and they were

908
00:39:38,509 --> 00:39:35,640
interviewing me about

909
00:39:41,269 --> 00:39:38,519
Law & Order and stuff and I said to them

910
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:41,279
say Heil to your friends in the news

911
00:39:45,799 --> 00:39:44,609
division and I got in a lot of trouble

912
00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:45,809
and was cut fired

913
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:48,900
damn I believe it I believe it that's a

914
00:39:54,969 --> 00:39:52,049
touchy subject and I gave them you know

915
00:39:58,219 --> 00:39:54,979
the salute because I [\h__\h] a Fox News

916
00:40:00,769 --> 00:39:58,229
and you know almost got fired and I said

917
00:40:02,809 --> 00:40:00,779
to one of my bosses who will go unnamed

918
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:02,819
I said don't they have 24 hours a day

919
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:05,640
seven days a week I'm a comedian with a

920
00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:08,700
few minutes on TV show I don't think we

921
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:12,329
can equate to yeah no you're stupid

922
00:40:16,009 --> 00:40:14,700
you're stupid for doing I mean I keep

923
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:16,019
your mouth shut and don't talk to the

924
00:40:21,949 --> 00:40:18,930
press but they didn't find me so that's

925
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:21,959
that's a good thing that is a good thing

926
00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:25,349
man so I know as an actor you obviously

927
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:26,849
move in those circles you've had a lot

928
00:40:32,269 --> 00:40:29,190
of conversations with other actors do

929
00:40:34,999 --> 00:40:32,279
you think in general most of the people

930
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:35,009
in this field are aware of how

931
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:36,630
influential Hollywood and mainstream

932
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:38,190
media is or is this something that gets

933
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:40,140
talked about a lot among the actors or

934
00:40:45,499 --> 00:40:41,579
do you think some of it gets more

935
00:40:48,979 --> 00:40:45,509
glossed over no I think now more than

936
00:40:51,219 --> 00:40:48,989
ever people in so-called Hollywood

937
00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:51,229
people are much more aware their

938
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:54,119
responsibility to their to their public

939
00:40:57,499 --> 00:40:55,890
and so I think that's good I think

940
00:40:59,599 --> 00:40:57,509
they're you know they're being more

941
00:41:03,259 --> 00:40:59,609
careful or they're being more active or

942
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:03,269
whatever it's not like you know those

943
00:41:09,620 --> 00:41:06,569
innocent times where you know under

944
00:41:13,729 --> 00:41:09,630
World War two every major Hollywood star

945
00:41:16,219 --> 00:41:13,739
was raising money for the war and doing

946
00:41:18,289 --> 00:41:16,229
all this patriotic stuff and nobody said

947
00:41:21,709 --> 00:41:18,299
what are these Hollywood people do

948
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:21,719
nobody questioned it so if anything I

949
00:41:26,299 --> 00:41:24,569
think celebrities have a responsibility

950
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:26,309
because we are in the public eye right

951
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,430
at least you know I have some opinion or

952
00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:31,440
I'd say you know I don't therefore I

953
00:41:37,699 --> 00:41:33,900
respectfully decline or you know

954
00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:37,709
whatever right I think more people are

955
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,099
aware of their responsibilities of being

956
00:41:45,979 --> 00:41:43,380
a syllable and that's a beautiful thing

957
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:45,989
we're also in a really fortunate time

958
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:49,110
where you can be an entertainer and

959
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,240
reach a large audience without having to

960
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:53,280
play ball with the media gatekeepers

961
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:54,720
without potentially having to make

962
00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,790
compromises that you might not want to

963
00:42:00,530 --> 00:41:58,680
make just to have a job because the

964
00:42:01,730 --> 00:42:00,540
floodgates on the internet are sort of

965
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:01,740
open at least for now

966
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:04,980
but you still don't know who's watching

967
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:07,260
and listening and saying I'll never work

968
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:11,280
with that [\h__\h] again through his

969
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:14,010
or her views but I'm not I'm kidding one

970
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,730
has to so you also mentioned UFOs and

971
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:19,680
you know one of my favorite quotes is

972
00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,660
from Bill Clinton's book where he says

973
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:23,700
just after the Apollo 11 mission

974
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:25,530
astronauts walked on the moon an old

975
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:27,450
carpenter asked me if I really believed

976
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:29,850
that it happened and I said sure I saw

977
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:32,250
it on television he disagreed he said

978
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:33,660
that he didn't believe it for a minute

979
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:35,640
and that them television fellers could

980
00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:38,010
make things look real that weren't and

981
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:39,660
back then I thought he was a crank but

982
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:41,340
during my eight years in Washington I

983
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:43,410
saw some things on TV that made me

984
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:45,090
wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time

985
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:47,730
and that is just such a provocative

986
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:49,770
quote from an ex-president but as

987
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:51,810
someone who is more familiar with what

988
00:42:55,820 --> 00:42:54,060
can be done on a Hollywood sound stage

989
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:55,830
do you think that moon landing footage

990
00:43:01,840 --> 00:42:58,370
is real or was that a fake

991
00:43:05,770 --> 00:43:01,850
my feeling and this is clearly from my

992
00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:05,780
years of studying all this stuff I think

993
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:09,350
we went to the moon once and we were

994
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,170
warned off and never went back that's

995
00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:14,720
why we've never gone back hmm that's

996
00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:16,280
what I've heard

997
00:43:22,030 --> 00:43:20,300
learned red and found out from a lot of

998
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:22,040
different from many many different

999
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:24,830
sources who are really familiar with

1000
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:28,640
this and it seems like when they went up

1001
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,370
there they saw I mean this is in the

1002
00:43:36,850 --> 00:43:33,440
public domain they saw row of lights on

1003
00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:36,860
the horizon that were you know idling a

1004
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:42,080
craft and you know Edgar Mitchell and

1005
00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:44,450
who's an astronaut you know there's no

1006
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:47,360
doubt several astronauts said yes they

1007
00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:49,310
if you hear some of the recordings that

1008
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:53,630
were not censored the code word for UFOs

1009
00:43:59,710 --> 00:43:56,330
was Santa Claus is here you know like

1010
00:44:04,570 --> 00:43:59,720
they had a couple of terms to use so I

1011
00:44:07,390 --> 00:44:04,580
by I believe that if we could we would

1012
00:44:09,490 --> 00:44:07,400
have gone back there there demining

1013
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:09,500
there the medical scan we could do so

1014
00:44:18,370 --> 00:44:12,530
much on the moon in terms of scientific

1015
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:18,380
research and it would put us ahead maybe

1016
00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:20,690
centuries because of the nature of the

1017
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:22,220
atmosphere up there and the minerals

1018
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:24,530
that are there and what we could do

1019
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,480
there but no we never went back so that

1020
00:44:33,690 --> 00:44:31,520
to me says as and I've heard this

1021
00:44:37,630 --> 00:44:33,700
tournament and we were one golf

1022
00:44:39,250 --> 00:44:37,640
scientists that I find that so

1023
00:44:41,110 --> 00:44:39,260
provocative and I've heard those very

1024
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:41,120
same tapes where they talk about hey we

1025
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:42,890
got a Santa Claus coming up on our right

1026
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:44,270
and you're like hey you're supposed to

1027
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:46,010
be out in space on your way to the moon

1028
00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:47,690
there's not supposed to be a person for

1029
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:50,360
like tens of thousands of miles what are

1030
00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:52,310
you talking about but that is super

1031
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:53,660
provocative do you think there was a

1032
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:55,910
from what you I mean maybe some of your

1033
00:45:00,220 --> 00:44:58,160
connections you've been able to extract

1034
00:45:02,110 --> 00:45:00,230
some details but was there a real

1035
00:45:04,510 --> 00:45:02,120
conversation there what did it get

1036
00:45:06,850 --> 00:45:04,520
beyond just seen some saucers in the sky

1037
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:06,860
did they actually land on the moon and

1038
00:45:11,890 --> 00:45:10,610
have some type of meeting with people in

1039
00:45:13,690 --> 00:45:11,900
the flesh or how sea

1040
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:13,700
yes sir what kind of details about that

1041
00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:15,890
warning off have you heard or been able

1042
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:19,910
to detect yes that's a great question I

1043
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:24,049
I don't know how that was specifically

1044
00:45:32,349 --> 00:45:28,450
communicated to us meaning earth

1045
00:45:34,269 --> 00:45:32,359
Earthlings but that's a great question I

1046
00:45:38,019 --> 00:45:34,279
don't know if you know they got a

1047
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,029
message or they just you know maybe it

1048
00:45:42,910 --> 00:45:40,160
was like somebody you know walking in

1049
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:42,920
the jungle then coming to a clearing and

1050
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,130
there's like five hundred thousand men

1051
00:45:50,859 --> 00:45:48,079
with spears pointed at you you would

1052
00:45:54,670 --> 00:45:50,869
turn around and I wouldn't go back right

1053
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:54,680
right and I have heard some of those

1054
00:45:58,269 --> 00:45:56,510
far-out conspiracies that the moon

1055
00:46:01,180 --> 00:45:58,279
itself is some kind of alien base

1056
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,190
brought into orbit long ago to monitor

1057
00:46:05,289 --> 00:46:03,680
and that is pretty far-fetched but when

1058
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:05,299
you add this component you're like well

1059
00:46:10,569 --> 00:46:08,960
it might be a base now at least well

1060
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:10,579
there's two things about the moon that

1061
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:14,410
have yet to be explained one is the

1062
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:21,710
surface gravel and rocks are older than

1063
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:24,470
the rocks beneath it think about that

1064
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,369
for a second hmm also when the first

1065
00:46:37,749 --> 00:46:33,680
shuttle landed on the moon it

1066
00:46:42,130 --> 00:46:37,759
reverberate it like a bell yeah so that

1067
00:46:45,549 --> 00:46:42,140
means you know it was Hollow and you

1068
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:45,559
know there's no reason to disbelieve

1069
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:50,710
that it was not towed into into place

1070
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:53,569
for whatever reason as a base to affect

1071
00:46:59,319 --> 00:46:55,970
our tides who knows and that there's

1072
00:47:02,499 --> 00:46:59,329
certainly a case to be made for it not

1073
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:02,509
being with a naturally formed object you

1074
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:05,690
know it faces the same way I think it's

1075
00:47:13,210 --> 00:47:08,210
mainly celestial body in our solar

1076
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:13,220
system that doesn't rotate right which

1077
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:16,730
is kind of strange it is well but it's

1078
00:47:21,759 --> 00:47:19,730
odd I said the same thing

1079
00:47:25,989 --> 00:47:21,769
yeah I'm not allergic to the idea that

1080
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:25,999
it that it's an artificial thing you

1081
00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:29,049
know that's not just a chest to me I

1082
00:47:37,390 --> 00:47:32,680
agree and to maybe talk about the wider

1083
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:37,400
alien ET UFO situation what do you

1084
00:47:41,289 --> 00:47:39,170
think's going on kind of in a wider

1085
00:47:43,059 --> 00:47:41,299
sense outside of just that moon landing

1086
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:43,069
situation have some of your contacts

1087
00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:45,470
talked about to which degree they're

1088
00:47:52,329 --> 00:47:46,999
knowledgeable about what might be going

1089
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:52,339
on with alien well I've heard that we

1090
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:57,200
are in fact working with Phoebe's extra

1091
00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:02,240
biological entities in the United States

1092
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:04,790
some underground bases and that has been

1093
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:07,310
going on for a while and there's some

1094
00:48:14,109 --> 00:48:10,970
people that who are not crazy who's

1095
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:14,119
become very very neither of factly about

1096
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:16,520
it there aren't many of them but there

1097
00:48:22,660 --> 00:48:20,150
are you know like retired military or

1098
00:48:24,190 --> 00:48:22,670
scientists or that I go and these people

1099
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:24,200
I think most of those people can be

1100
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:27,500
found on the Internet and what's so

1101
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,110
great about it is that clearly not crazy

1102
00:48:35,050 --> 00:48:32,960
and there's a lot you know that people

1103
00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:35,060
say well what's the proof the proof is

1104
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,150
thousands of pilots and generals and you

1105
00:48:43,660 --> 00:48:40,960
know sober civilians four years of steam

1106
00:48:47,350 --> 00:48:43,670
crack that are not explainable by our

1107
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:47,360
physics it's not distant idea it's been

1108
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:49,790
a part of all at least since thank you

1109
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:52,610
for the seven there's been so many cases

1110
00:49:00,160 --> 00:48:56,570
of the UFOs like for LA during World War

1111
00:49:03,340 --> 00:49:00,170
two and over Washington in 1952 with

1112
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:03,350
squadrons of ships that will be fired

1113
00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:06,710
upon to no avail and people you know

1114
00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:10,340
people go no but this that happened so

1115
00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:12,350
it's a thing I keep going back to what

1116
00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:15,260
cognitive dissonance people don't want

1117
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:16,550
it's like you don't want to believe your

1118
00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:19,240
parents or having sex in actually yeah

1119
00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:21,940
they're not my mother about it it's like

1120
00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:24,470
maybe that's a bad analogy but it's like

1121
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:25,790
now it's a good one because the evidence

1122
00:49:31,060 --> 00:49:28,250
is there that that did happen yeah right

1123
00:49:34,750 --> 00:49:31,070
so you know there are very few things I

1124
00:49:38,890 --> 00:49:34,760
don't want to know you know I think we

1125
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:38,900
can take it in actually 1962 the

1126
00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:41,930
Brookings Institute did a study was

1127
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:44,150
commissioned to do a study about what

1128
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:46,010
the effect would be on you know on the

1129
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:47,690
people of the United States it's a

1130
00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:49,970
flying saucer oil craft from another

1131
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,100
civilization landed on the earth and

1132
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:55,760
they concluded that scientists science

1133
00:50:01,690 --> 00:49:58,970
would be called into question could the

1134
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:01,700
military in fact protect us and would

1135
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,430
cause great sphere religion would be

1136
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:06,800
called into question all these things

1137
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:10,250
were brought up like people of children

1138
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:12,290
they couldn't handle it I dare say that

1139
00:50:16,820 --> 00:50:15,150
after the UFO landed today and Rene lien

1140
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:16,830
out in three weeks they have their own

1141
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,840
talk show and we folded into the culture

1142
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:20,640
you know what I mean when people

1143
00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:23,010
wouldn't be shocked they would perhaps

1144
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:25,590
the way they would have a 1962 I thought

1145
00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:28,680
people would you know accept it and I

1146
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,300
think people would not believe it's

1147
00:50:34,310 --> 00:50:32,400
leaving a you know the sitting there

1148
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:34,320
with you on television will never lose

1149
00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:37,170
saying you know people of the earth we

1150
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:38,760
have been existence or billions and

1151
00:50:43,610 --> 00:50:41,730
billions of years you know yeah and so

1152
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:43,620
alright I'm gonna get a little weird on

1153
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:45,900
you because I do how much weirder to me

1154
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:49,380
did I know I know who'd have thought but

1155
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:51,090
you know I do a lot of interviews with

1156
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:53,210
researchers who will talk about

1157
00:50:57,170 --> 00:50:55,710
conspiracies involving Hollywood but

1158
00:50:59,150 --> 00:50:57,180
they're usually looking at it from the

1159
00:51:01,880 --> 00:50:59,160
outside they'll talk about things like

1160
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:01,890
Illuminati sacrifices this idea that you

1161
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:04,350
can't crack the top levels unless you're

1162
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,090
serving that agenda or in some cases

1163
00:51:09,770 --> 00:51:07,920
they even talk about mind-control being

1164
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,780
involved this kind of stuff when it

1165
00:51:13,490 --> 00:51:11,520
comes to some of those wilder claims

1166
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:13,500
have you seen anything in your career

1167
00:51:16,580 --> 00:51:14,910
that would suggest that they have some

1168
00:51:22,730 --> 00:51:16,590
merit or are those things largely

1169
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,740
overblown I have in my experience you

1170
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:25,680
know what a kid now I don't have seen no

1171
00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:29,700
evidence of people

1172
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,700
first second third or 14th and I know

1173
00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:34,800
all kinds of people believe me you know

1174
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:37,320
from drug dealers to Superstars

1175
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:39,690
everything in between not to brag or

1176
00:51:47,090 --> 00:51:43,650
drop names which I won't but no think

1177
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:47,100
you know there's an element of like if

1178
00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:50,040
somebody becomes a a huge star maybe

1179
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:51,840
it's because they're you know it was the

1180
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:53,490
zeitgeist and because of their talent

1181
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:55,590
and they met the needs of the culture at

1182
00:51:59,900 --> 00:51:57,900
that time and you know and they're good

1183
00:52:02,570 --> 00:51:59,910
at what they do and then not some

1184
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:02,580
ceremony that they went to with a you

1185
00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:04,770
know [\h__\h] a goat and you know said

1186
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:07,350
something and wore masks and you know or

1187
00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:10,470
undated to a satanic or Illuminati I

1188
00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:13,860
don't deny the existence of secret

1189
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:17,400
societies and I don't know if you want

1190
00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:19,260
to get into that but I see no evidence

1191
00:52:26,420 --> 00:52:24,270
of any of that remotely in the circles

1192
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:26,430
I've been in in film and in television

1193
00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:30,090
and in the recording industry musicians

1194
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:33,630
actors the theater I mean I have not

1195
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:38,310
seen anything remotely resembling that I

1196
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:40,530
was Cedric yeah I wish I did it would be

1197
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:44,130
fascinating yeah I mean well I had to

1198
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:45,930
ask cause you're here but I figured you

1199
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:47,370
might say something along those lines

1200
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:49,260
have you seen you mentioned secret

1201
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:50,970
societies any influence that you know

1202
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:52,650
just to broaden that out any influence

1203
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:55,410
from Freemasons or Skull and Bones or

1204
00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:56,850
anything like that in Hollywood do they

1205
00:53:03,110 --> 00:52:59,160
do they put their agents in that pie I

1206
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,120
think the skullenbones thing is a north

1207
00:53:10,850 --> 00:53:07,040
eastern Boston to Washington DC corridor

1208
00:53:13,340 --> 00:53:10,860
Yale entity it's very popular in

1209
00:53:17,090 --> 00:53:13,350
Hollywood smore involved in high finance

1210
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:17,100
and the international banking and stuff

1211
00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:20,790
like that so no Hollywood is not like

1212
00:53:25,850 --> 00:53:23,430
the North eat you know the Wall Street

1213
00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:25,860
core Washington corridor it's a

1214
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,320
different you know there's an old joke

1215
00:53:34,940 --> 00:53:31,200
that says that Washington is Hollywood

1216
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:34,950
for ugly people but you know this wasn't

1217
00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:39,330
even Washington fair enough so to get

1218
00:53:42,830 --> 00:53:40,560
back to the book a little bit another

1219
00:53:43,610 --> 00:53:42,840
thing I want to bring up that we could

1220
00:53:46,010 --> 00:53:43,620
actually

1221
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:46,020
put some laws in place to stop we talked

1222
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:47,850
about that revolving door a little bit

1223
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:50,850
with Michael Taylor and the FDA but when

1224
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:53,130
it gets into regulatory agencies

1225
00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:55,920
government agencies the CEO positions

1226
00:54:00,500 --> 00:53:59,130
all these different deputy directors and

1227
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:00,510
commissioners and all these kind of

1228
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:04,170
[\h__\h] titles that is probably one of

1229
00:54:07,820 --> 00:54:06,090
the most damaging things that create

1230
00:54:09,740 --> 00:54:07,830
these loopholes for corporations and it

1231
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:09,750
also is one of those things that would

1232
00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:11,640
be easiest to fix with legislation

1233
00:54:17,330 --> 00:54:14,520
wouldn't you say yeah that's one of the

1234
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:17,340
things that we have in our book is what

1235
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:20,010
can we do about it and one of the things

1236
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:23,220
is just in this revolving door like you

1237
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:26,910
gave an example of before and you know

1238
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:29,370
again somebody that was crafting

1239
00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:31,410
legislation to affect an industry they

1240
00:54:37,850 --> 00:54:34,320
worked for eventually against the law

1241
00:54:40,430 --> 00:54:37,860
right I mean and I think that people

1242
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:40,440
becoming more and more aware especially

1243
00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:41,880
with these town halls you know they're

1244
00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:43,740
they're this - getting more and more

1245
00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:46,620
what is their congressman actually do

1246
00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:51,900
and they're finding out you know that

1247
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:53,700
it's not pretty

1248
00:54:58,700 --> 00:54:55,410
and they don't think there's

1249
00:55:00,589 --> 00:54:58,710
constituents needs always I think that's

1250
00:55:02,690 --> 00:55:00,599
an interesting point because a lot of

1251
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,700
people I think are waking up to the idea

1252
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:04,319
that they need to pay way more attention

1253
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,440
to local government and left to the you

1254
00:55:11,509 --> 00:55:09,359
know dog and pony show that is the

1255
00:55:12,829 --> 00:55:11,519
presidential election because if you

1256
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:12,839
really want to get into what's going to

1257
00:55:16,609 --> 00:55:14,970
affect your community that you actually

1258
00:55:18,589 --> 00:55:16,619
can influence because you're not going

1259
00:55:20,210 --> 00:55:18,599
to influence anything Trump wants to do

1260
00:55:21,710 --> 00:55:20,220
I mean it's going to be difficult as an

1261
00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:21,720
individual unless you get a lot of other

1262
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:24,390
individuals but you yourself you can

1263
00:55:28,299 --> 00:55:26,460
talk to these local representatives you

1264
00:55:31,099 --> 00:55:28,309
know just load these local officials and

1265
00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:31,109
fix the potholes in your neighborhood or

1266
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:34,260
get marijuana legalized or do any of the

1267
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:35,970
other things that you might care about

1268
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:38,609
work on your local water supply and

1269
00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:40,500
keeping the pharmaceuticals and fluoride

1270
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,190
out of it

1271
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,960
that kind of stuff so I think people are

1272
00:55:48,289 --> 00:55:44,720
waking up and there is some hope in

1273
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,299
going local in all kinds of areas I'm

1274
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,099
glad you brought that up because that's

1275
00:55:56,059 --> 00:55:53,359
exactly the way to do it and that's what

1276
00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:56,069
evangelicals did three years that three

1277
00:56:00,559 --> 00:55:58,500
years is angelicus thought that they

1278
00:56:02,990 --> 00:56:00,569
were above politics I don't know if we

1279
00:56:06,589 --> 00:56:03,000
were old enough to remember them but

1280
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:06,599
then they became politicized and they

1281
00:56:13,339 --> 00:56:09,410
started taking over school boards and

1282
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:13,349
legislators and share of some judgeships

1283
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:15,240
and before you will wake up and turn

1284
00:56:21,049 --> 00:56:18,480
around and we're in this kind of you

1285
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:21,059
know religious semi fascists [\h__\h]

1286
00:56:27,710 --> 00:56:24,450
country so I'm with you a hundred

1287
00:56:30,529 --> 00:56:27,720
percent there people have to on the

1288
00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:30,539
local level start which you know local

1289
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:34,470
level as Tip O'Neill said don't politics

1290
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:37,440
is local and you know if we the people

1291
00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:41,250
control their local politics and keep

1292
00:56:47,089 --> 00:56:43,950
their congressman on his toes or her

1293
00:56:50,839 --> 00:56:47,099
toes but that is a way of affecting the

1294
00:56:52,819 --> 00:56:50,849
national dialogue it is well set before

1295
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:52,829
we we run out of time I want to see if

1296
00:56:56,329 --> 00:56:54,210
maybe we can't offer a little

1297
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,339
inspiration to people on a personal

1298
00:57:00,019 --> 00:56:58,319
level because all of these problems with

1299
00:57:03,049 --> 00:57:00,029
corporations that we've talked about a

1300
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:03,059
lot of us have no other options for work

1301
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:05,670
for our careers and we go to these cog

1302
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:07,310
in the machine jobs

1303
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:09,110
early enough to get by while the CEO

1304
00:57:13,210 --> 00:57:11,060
buys a house for every day of the

1305
00:57:15,850 --> 00:57:13,220
[\h__\h] week and we put a lot of our

1306
00:57:18,010 --> 00:57:15,860
dreams on hold and our talents go unused

1307
00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:18,020
and fear of failure plays such a huge

1308
00:57:23,230 --> 00:57:20,120
role in why people play it safe in this

1309
00:57:25,330 --> 00:57:23,240
regard - and as a guy who has taken that

1310
00:57:27,370 --> 00:57:25,340
leap many years ago and has had it pay

1311
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:27,380
off quite well what would you say to

1312
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,570
advise people who might have similar

1313
00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:31,760
dreams but also have a lot of fear

1314
00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:35,150
around pursuing them well as I said I

1315
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:37,640
think I said before the worst thing we

1316
00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:41,090
can do is self-censorship and it's the

1317
00:57:50,530 --> 00:57:44,780
thing I fear most almost as much a state

1318
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:50,540
censorship but you know had its 2017 the

1319
00:57:56,250 --> 00:57:54,190
world is not spinning out of control

1320
00:57:59,820 --> 00:57:56,260
I think that now is a time for anyone

1321
00:58:02,430 --> 00:57:59,830
who has any notion of you know doing

1322
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:02,440
something for themselves should go about

1323
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:04,990
it a bit more clearly and look around to

1324
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:06,690
other examples of people that you admire

1325
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:09,640
there's so many people I know and untrue

1326
00:58:15,150 --> 00:58:12,660
that everyone knows who have overcome

1327
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:15,160
seemingly impossible odds or at least

1328
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:18,960
did some difficulties and

1329
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:22,050
life as Jack Kennedy said life is life

1330
00:58:26,750 --> 00:58:24,930
is unfair and sometimes we have to you

1331
00:58:30,740 --> 00:58:26,760
know work a little harder than the next

1332
00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:30,750
person but the main thing is maintaining

1333
00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:33,270
our self-esteem and dignity and having

1334
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:35,880
an uncertain future certainly doesn't

1335
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,099
help but it's something that I think

1336
00:58:43,070 --> 00:58:41,280
people can exercise their will I don't

1337
00:58:46,060 --> 00:58:43,080
think everything is predestined I think

1338
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:46,070
you can exercise your will away at fate

1339
00:58:52,220 --> 00:58:50,400
at least you know in my experience well

1340
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:52,230
yeah I mean that's also what they say in

1341
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:53,970
the East etheric circles for sure

1342
00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:56,970
I also agree and I think that getting

1343
00:59:01,010 --> 00:58:58,980
into this conspiracy stuff yes we would

1344
00:59:04,310 --> 00:59:01,020
like to see some major structural

1345
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,320
changes to the system that we have but

1346
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:07,920
on an individual basis I think the value

1347
00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:09,690
in learning about this stuff is to get

1348
00:59:14,180 --> 00:59:12,270
just a more accurate map of the world

1349
00:59:16,940 --> 00:59:14,190
that we live in and with a more accurate

1350
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:16,950
map you can navigate it more

1351
00:59:20,660 --> 00:59:19,050
appropriately for yourself maybe you see

1352
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,670
all the damaging things these

1353
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:22,619
corporations do and the way they

1354
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:24,450
undercut their own employees and the way

1355
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:26,580
pensions are going away and benefits are

1356
00:59:31,099 --> 00:59:28,710
cut and you say well [\h__\h] this I'm not

1357
00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:31,109
going to be able to work for AT&T for

1358
00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:33,240
the next 30 years I'm have to go do

1359
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:35,220
something on my own and I think that

1360
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:36,930
kind of that's the value on an

1361
00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:38,609
individual basis would you kind of

1362
00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:40,830
concur with that yeah I think that's a

1363
00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:45,630
well put that some people just kind of

1364
00:59:52,550 --> 00:59:49,020
reflexively fall in line so to speak

1365
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:52,560
right and others you know I have an urge

1366
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:56,520
to maybe stop and step out of the line I

1367
01:00:04,460 --> 00:59:59,880
look around you know but a lot of people

1368
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:04,470
need a security that you know their job

1369
01:00:09,010 --> 01:00:06,690
their the family their rent or mortgage

1370
01:00:11,020 --> 01:00:09,020
whatever

1371
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:11,030
in the leadership of the country is is

1372
01:00:15,730 --> 01:00:13,730
so uncertain it throws everything into a

1373
01:00:18,970 --> 01:00:15,740
certainty and you know that's it's

1374
01:00:22,990 --> 01:00:18,980
harder to do what we've been talking

1375
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:23,000
about then it than it was ten years ago

1376
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:28,730
I think that's that and I'm oh I hope so

1377
01:00:33,850 --> 01:00:31,610
too and you know we mentioned Trump a

1378
01:00:36,970 --> 01:00:33,860
few times I wanted to throw out there I

1379
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:36,980
saw a clip of you actually got to roast

1380
01:00:41,170 --> 01:00:39,980
Donald Trump at the Friars Club almost a

1381
01:00:45,330 --> 01:00:41,180
decade ago

1382
01:00:48,010 --> 01:00:45,340
and maybe even longer she had some for

1383
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:48,020
2004 you pointed out some of these same

1384
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:50,210
issues the fact that he's made a lot of

1385
01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:52,610
his money by abusing workers and taking

1386
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:54,350
advantage of people and making shady

1387
01:00:59,050 --> 01:00:57,230
deals and I was just curious as you hold

1388
01:01:01,359 --> 01:00:59,060
a bit of personal pride at this point

1389
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:01,369
that you got that opportunity to kind of

1390
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:05,290
speak right to him yo living in New York

1391
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:09,680
we knew all about Trump before he went

1392
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:11,930
into politics so long you know that's

1393
01:01:17,230 --> 01:01:13,840
who he was he's a man he's always been

1394
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:17,240
so when he became president it was like

1395
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:20,970
not him not our Donald

1396
01:01:29,570 --> 01:01:24,570
not our bloviating Pig Donald he's the

1397
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:29,580
president so yeah I very prideful over

1398
01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:32,520
that well it's just so interesting that

1399
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:34,260
after everything we've been through with

1400
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:35,970
the back and forth from Democrats

1401
01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:37,740
Republicans and just things never

1402
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:39,960
changing that we would look to some

1403
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:43,650
billionaire real estate executive as the

1404
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:45,810
saving grace and the the champion of the

1405
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:48,960
people it really made zero sense yeah

1406
01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:51,660
and don't forget he did not win the

1407
01:01:56,330 --> 01:01:55,020
popular one to there

1408
01:01:58,820 --> 01:01:56,340
can you imagine what would happen

1409
01:02:01,760 --> 01:01:58,830
ability was president there'd be

1410
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:01,770
hearings so you know but for four years

1411
01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:05,730
we've driven her crazy yeah seems like

1412
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:08,460
we were in trouble either way yeah but I

1413
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:12,510
think that the activists and regular

1414
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:17,030
people that I've woken up is very very

1415
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:20,460
heartening to me Americans taking the

1416
01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:23,160
responsibility as Jefferson said to be

1417
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:27,000
an informed citizenry and that's what's

1418
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:27,540
happened

1419
01:02:33,140 --> 01:02:30,690
yeah well said that is a positive note

1420
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:33,150
and I love it man I really do appreciate

1421
01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:34,920
what you do and the way you choose to

1422
01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:37,020
use your platform and I really enjoyed

1423
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:38,700
the book and I hope people pick it up is

1424
01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:41,040
there anything else you're working on or

1425
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:42,060
would like to tell the people about

1426
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:44,730
before we wrap this thing up I have a

1427
01:02:50,180 --> 01:02:47,640
talk show on YouTube it's called Richard

1428
01:02:52,790 --> 01:02:50,190
Belzer conversations and I interviewed

1429
01:02:54,380 --> 01:02:52,800
for the dog food and Paul Shaffer and

1430
01:02:56,780 --> 01:02:54,390
you know a bunch of the really

1431
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:56,790
interesting people so people may want to

1432
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,520
check that out yeah very cool getting

1433
01:03:03,230 --> 01:03:01,440
outside of the corporate stranglehold

1434
01:03:06,910 --> 01:03:03,240
and coming out on your own I love it

1435
01:03:09,350 --> 01:03:06,920
exactly uh you and Bill O'Reilly he said

1436
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:09,360
nothing yeah me either

1437
01:03:14,330 --> 01:03:12,690
uh well then Richard thanks again keep

1438
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:14,340
fighting the good fight my man okay

1439
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,850
great take care thanks again you got it

1440
01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:19,440
all right all right good people of the

1441
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:21,630
internet big guest today in Richard

1442
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:23,490
Belzer blowing the doors off some

1443
01:03:28,970 --> 01:03:26,370
corporate conspiracies this will be one

1444
01:03:30,650 --> 01:03:28,980
of those shows where people I haven't

1445
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:30,660
talked to in many years from high school

1446
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:32,640
will see that I posted this on Facebook

1447
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:34,530
and wonder what the hell

1448
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:36,510
is the law and order guy doing on Greg

1449
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,690
Carl would stupid podcast and those are

1450
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:42,000
fun moments for me but I thought we

1451
01:03:45,830 --> 01:03:43,830
covered a lot of good ground too I love

1452
01:03:47,450 --> 01:03:45,840
the book and it worked out because I

1453
01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:47,460
literally was typing corporate

1454
01:03:51,950 --> 01:03:49,950
conspiracies into Amazon to see what

1455
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:51,960
books came up and of course Richards was

1456
01:03:56,900 --> 01:03:54,810
top of the list and a new release and to

1457
01:03:58,790 --> 01:03:56,910
add icing on that cake his people

1458
01:04:00,890 --> 01:03:58,800
already knew about the higher side chats

1459
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:00,900
when I asked if we could get him on

1460
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,050
so everything slid right into place big

1461
01:04:07,790 --> 01:04:06,240
thanks to him for taking the time I also

1462
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:07,800
kind of did this one for my dad who's

1463
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:09,690
seen Richard a lot through the years is

1464
01:04:14,510 --> 01:04:11,850
a bit of a fan and I think it's just

1465
01:04:17,390 --> 01:04:14,520
cool for him to see this episode come to

1466
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:17,400
fruition too so shout out to pops also

1467
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:19,230
when I was going over some clips from

1468
01:04:24,290 --> 01:04:21,660
Richard's career just looking at all the

1469
01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:24,300
crazy stuff he's been a part of I

1470
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:25,710
thought a clip with Hulk Hogan

1471
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:29,250
apparently in the 80s or maybe early 90s

1472
01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:32,490
Richard at his own show and Hulk Hogan

1473
01:04:37,460 --> 01:04:34,760
was on it put him in a headlock and

1474
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:37,470
choked him out dropped him in his head

1475
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:39,900
slammed against the stage and pretty

1476
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:42,330
dramatic fashion and the crowd gasps and

1477
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:44,630
it was just one of those interesting

1478
01:04:50,810 --> 01:04:47,970
real things didn't go expected on live

1479
01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:50,820
TV moments that I always get a kick out

1480
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:53,100
of so I did want to talk about his book

1481
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:55,110
of course but I also focused a lot of

1482
01:04:59,660 --> 01:04:57,210
questions on the media and Hollywood

1483
01:05:02,060 --> 01:04:59,670
because it is sort of rare to have such

1484
01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:02,070
a well-known actor here I wanted to get

1485
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,260
a bit into that stuff here things from

1486
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:06,720
his side and I was also a pretty big

1487
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,640
Robin Williams fan the guy really was

1488
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,280
one of a kind and we do have researchers

1489
01:05:15,110 --> 01:05:12,960
in the conspiracy world who are saying

1490
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:15,120
he faked his death or was an Illuminati

1491
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:17,700
sacrifice these are things that I will

1492
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:19,890
never know and you can have those

1493
01:05:24,290 --> 01:05:22,530
theories but Richard was a friend of his

1494
01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:24,300
and I am more than happy to paint a

1495
01:05:28,850 --> 01:05:26,100
target on Big Pharma for this one I

1496
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:28,860
think that's fairly cut and dry there is

1497
01:05:33,830 --> 01:05:31,650
a serious pill problem these days also

1498
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:33,840
like I said in the intro Richard doesn't

1499
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:35,370
have to put out these books he doesn't

1500
01:05:39,340 --> 01:05:36,990
have to draw attention to these things

1501
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:39,350
but he does so we should respect that

1502
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:42,480
even if we might disagree on some of the

1503
01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:44,670
finer points personally the only area

1504
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:46,200
I'd really disagree with him on would be

1505
01:05:50,490 --> 01:05:48,430
that he seems to be a little bio

1506
01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:50,500
when it comes to liberals and the

1507
01:05:54,750 --> 01:05:52,420
Democrats I don't know that he holds

1508
01:05:57,660 --> 01:05:54,760
them to the fire the same way he would

1509
01:05:59,730 --> 01:05:57,670
Republicans for a conspiracy enthusiast

1510
01:06:01,440 --> 01:05:59,740
I just think it's better to step outside

1511
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:01,450
of both parties and consider them

1512
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:04,570
equally corrupt and unusable of course

1513
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:06,490
philosophically I do find more common

1514
01:06:11,370 --> 01:06:09,010
ground with liberal leaning folks but I

1515
01:06:14,310 --> 01:06:11,380
do try to separate that from actual

1516
01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:14,320
career politicians news anchors and team

1517
01:06:19,740 --> 01:06:16,990
democrat in general but that's just me

1518
01:06:22,350 --> 01:06:19,750
and it really wasn't even the point or

1519
01:06:24,030 --> 01:06:22,360
the focus of today's show obviously

1520
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:24,040
people have their own way of looking at

1521
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:25,840
these things and we can still come

1522
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:27,970
together and have a productive solid

1523
01:06:31,770 --> 01:06:29,830
conversation about Big Pharma the

1524
01:06:33,810 --> 01:06:31,780
regulatory agencies that aren't doing

1525
01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:33,820
their jobs the revolving door of

1526
01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:36,040
politics and corporate players media

1527
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:38,230
manipulation and some alien talk of

1528
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:39,610
course for good measure

1529
01:06:44,370 --> 01:06:42,010
so I hope you liked it I appreciate each

1530
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:44,380
and every one who listened as always an

1531
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:46,840
ad-free one our version goes out to the

1532
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:48,430
world and if you want to hear the

1533
01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:50,410
extended to our episodes you sign up

1534
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:52,390
with me for the higher side chats plus

1535
01:06:56,850 --> 01:06:55,150
for five bucks a month in this episode

1536
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:56,860
we talked about the prison industrial

1537
01:07:02,100 --> 01:06:59,530
complex the drug war and its role in a

1538
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,110
big conspiracy the bank bailout and why

1539
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:04,240
it shouldn't just be glossed over the

1540
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:06,970
prospects for a bailout round two in our

1541
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:10,570
future how bear developed heroin what

1542
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:11,950
Richard thinks about the motivations

1543
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:14,560
behind the JFK assassination Malaysian

1544
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:17,590
Airlines flight 370 Richards thoughts on

1545
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:20,050
the Franklin scandal blackmail and

1546
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:22,750
pedophilia networks in elite circles and

1547
01:07:28,530 --> 01:07:26,170
from that dark place we got words of

1548
01:07:30,270 --> 01:07:28,540
artistic inspiration and Richards advice

1549
01:07:32,550 --> 01:07:30,280
to people who aren't living out their

1550
01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:32,560
dreams due to fear pressure and the

1551
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:34,390
multitude of things that hold us back I

1552
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:36,370
thought it was important to hit that

1553
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:38,410
before we ended it because a lot of

1554
01:07:43,170 --> 01:07:40,960
people out there are dreaming not living

1555
01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:43,180
and I know the corporate stranglehold

1556
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:44,830
and big conspiracy can seem so

1557
01:07:50,010 --> 01:07:46,690
overwhelming and absolute that the

1558
01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:50,020
situation seems unfixable and maybe in a

1559
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:53,230
lot of ways it is but you can still live

1560
01:07:59,820 --> 01:07:57,610
a good happy successful life despite all

1561
01:08:01,830 --> 01:07:59,830
that and when it comes to the big system

1562
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:01,840
we absolutely know there are differences

1563
01:08:03,859 --> 01:08:02,130
but

1564
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:03,869
Queen the corporate stranglehold on a

1565
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:05,700
place like France first the United

1566
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:08,130
States so don't say we can't do anything

1567
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:11,130
we do have to pay attention we got to

1568
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:12,690
watch where we put our money call out

1569
01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:15,119
[\h__\h] and make sure politicians know

1570
01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:16,230
that we're just not [\h__\h] around

1571
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:19,230
anymore people will say oh when you vote

1572
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:20,940
you give your power to the system and

1573
01:08:25,729 --> 01:08:22,710
validate their paradigm and all that

1574
01:08:28,220 --> 01:08:25,739
okay so do nothing then and then we'll

1575
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:28,230
only have absalom criminals in office

1576
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:30,330
with even less accountability than they

1577
01:08:34,939 --> 01:08:33,000
have now we have to actually watch them

1578
01:08:37,129 --> 01:08:34,949
and we're really not we got to own that

1579
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:37,139
a little bit but the world's a

1580
01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:39,540
complicated mess these are just some

1581
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:42,060
parts of it either way I love you guys

1582
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:44,310
thanks for listening I'm out of here the

1583
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:46,500
higher side chats clothing calm for all

1584
01:08:50,450 --> 01:08:48,330
your conspiracy t-shirt needs and I'll

1585
01:08:52,910 --> 01:08:50,460
see you in just a couple days with a new

1586
01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:52,920
episode your move Big Pharma pill

1587
01:09:01,090 --> 01:08:54,839
pushers corporate food for anglers and

1588
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:06,870
oh no you see

1589
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:12,710
no random it's attached to pop Wall

1590
01:09:25,950 --> 01:09:22,880
Street control of i-95 trustee

1591
01:09:31,109 --> 01:09:25,960
now dumb bad jobs in Philly

1592
01:09:36,450 --> 01:09:31,119
hello can here

1593
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:36,460
should I play man recording I'm some by

1594
01:10:07,140 --> 01:09:39,890
agency we were young

1595
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:07,150
[Music]

1596
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:06,390
so typically talk about

1597
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:18,870
did you ever hear argument the nothing

1598
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:21,770
really happened

1599
01:12:30,130 --> 01:12:19,820
[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]